“Privacy assured!” Politics, the police & surveillance

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1. David H 1

   16 October 2012 at 12:11 pm

   And how do Key and Bennet react to this massive leak?? They ATTACK and out Ira Baily. Now it seems that they knew about it for a year so that dog has whistled it’s last I hope.
   • Dr Terry 1.1

     16 October 2012 at 12:17 pm

     They ALWAYS find scapegoats as a matter of policy. Has Key ever yet apologised for himself? (I cannot be certain, but nothing returns to mind).
   • aerobubble 1.2

     16 October 2012 at 3:31 pm

     Questions. Now that Key has stimulated the black information economy, will he continue by having Bennett personal sign apologizes to every potential client of Winz who has had their information exposed, and pay them compensation to cover the costs of defending of reducing their risks.

     Will Key explain how he will catch the member of the spy agency who broke the security of the spy agency by informing the opposition leader that a camera was available and could have recorded him talking about dotcom (before he actually did).

     Does Key credibility hang in tatters that he has proposed a staffer be responsible for all security matters, has Key ever seen Yes, Minister? What a dozy git.

     Will Key continue to collate data across the government sector, bring in private partners like Google, and just hope all the money spent on keeping information in prime quality, won’t be a gold mine for every single individual up and down the world who gains access to it???

     Would someone please explain how having just one man responsible for the spy agencies, that nobody else can be trusted, or worse some unelected staffer would be vetted and be without any
     recourse if a dispute were to arise. I mean what sort of prick creates a position that only a mug would put their hand up to do? Its half arsed of Key to admit he needs to off the cuff create a
     staffer with clearance (who he is also responsible for) and not go the whole way to the credible
     solution which would be a full oversight committee.

     And then we come to the gem, Waiway back door to the milk volume data so Chinese buyers can
     get insider information about the milk market. Has Key got a waiway backdoor in his brain because it looks like it.
     • Rogue Trooper 1.2.1

       16 October 2012 at 8:56 pm

       😉
     • Tom 1.2.2

       17 October 2012 at 8:06 am

       As much as I hate to say it, I have to ask if the average voting Jill or Joe – content with their chemical dystopia, rapt in the latest sporting goss, their weekly punt on Australian races, the latest brain-rot from Peter Jackson, weekly phone-calls from Crosby-Textor clones, the illusion of independence and self-employed superannuation, and ‘that nice man John Key’ .. really care ?
       • Rogue Trooper 1.2.2.1

         17 October 2012 at 9:17 am

         Nope
2. captain hook 2

   16 October 2012 at 12:19 pm

   she should just resign and get it over with it.
   this governments luck has run out.
3. tracey 3

   16 October 2012 at 12:20 pm

   I want them to accept it requires more than a review of online access but internal access as well, or are they happy for every employee, contractor and consultant to have access to all data?
4. Blue 4

   16 October 2012 at 12:40 pm

   I’m still waiting for the police to apologise to Bradley Ambrose for defaming him.

   Not holding my breath on that one…
5. vto 5

   16 October 2012 at 12:51 pm

   This is all so fucking simple.

   Don’t trust authority.

   The trust that existed in the past is long gone folks. We live in different days now and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

   It is us against the state/s. Make no mistake.
   • Draco T Bastard 5.1

     16 October 2012 at 4:51 pm

     Don’t trust authority.</blockquote?
     QFT

     There has never been a time when authority could be trusted. This is why we have the OIA process and the ability, supposedly, to hold our MPs to account. This government is proving, beyond doubt, that we actually have that power.
6. tracey 6

   16 October 2012 at 12:55 pm

   Key said hed sack banks if he broke the law. The ceo of msd has breached the obligations of the privacy act. That is broke the law.
7. tracey 7

   16 October 2012 at 1:17 pm

   How much will we have to pay deloittes and kpmg to review all this?
8. tracey 8

   16 October 2012 at 1:21 pm

   How is this for understatement…

   ” Social Development Minister Paula Bennett says it is disturbing that an IT company identified a major security hole in Work and Income’s systems more than a year ago but it had not been fixed.”

   Disturbing? Disturbing? Its incompetence and a fragrant breach of the privacy act. People need to read the twelve principles.

   The Ministry of Social Development revealed this morning that IT company Dimension Data had tested the self-serve kiosks in April last year and identified issues of concern.
   • vto 8.1

     16 October 2012 at 1:30 pm

     “… a fragrant breach …”?

     I don’t think so – the whole thing stinks …
9. tracey 9

   16 October 2012 at 1:38 pm

   Nice one vto. Thanks for picking up my error…

   How about this quote from granny h readers

   Rose 11:53 am Tuesday 16 October 2012 With Deloittes doing the ‘review’ maybe the Government should data share where the best part of $100 million from Auckland City Council went with Deloittes failed IT projects.
10. Rogue Trooper 10

    16 October 2012 at 4:17 pm

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on the human face-for ever.

    -Orwell (obviously)
    • McFlock 10.1

      16 October 2012 at 4:54 pm

      Sure it wasn’t Shades of Grey? 🙂
      • Rogue Trooper 10.1.1

        16 October 2012 at 5:04 pm

        Tell me about it! What the freak does that tell you? I’m lookin for a Hard Headed Woman, not a freakin passion slave (you guys have it all over me with this mazerati magic; me? I’m more of a Heart “Magic Man”)
11. Draco T Bastard 11

    16 October 2012 at 4:45 pm

    And they sometimes seem to be used for the benefit of powerful corporates…

    That’s been true for a long, long time.
    • Rogue Trooper 11.1

      16 October 2012 at 4:59 pm

      Amerika, where are you now, don’t you care about your sons and daughters?….
      (In his novel “Amerika”, Kafka spells out quite clearly this principle of basic “law”: in both Europe (von dadelszen ) and America “the verdict was determined by the first words that happened to come from the judge’s mouth, in an impulse of rage”.) (get that cat beacham!)
12. Dr Terry 12

    16 October 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Allow me to pick up on Karol’s mention of last night’s Campbell Live in which Key is shown for what he really is in connection with the Pike River disaster. We were reminded of John Key pledging, in the aftermath, to do everything in his power to recover the bodies of the miners. Now, this same man displays sheer nonchalance, the man who declared at the time, “New Zealand stands shoulder to shoulder with you.”
    The widow of one victim is currently recorded as reacting with the following selection of her words, “Solid Energy is a government-owned company but I don’t have a lot of faith in (Prime Minister) John Key . . . I don’t believe he’s got a heart. He’s made lots of promises to the Pike Creek families that he hasn’t kept . . . He just lied.”
    We are assured by families that “one thing we will never forget is what Prime Minister John Key told us then, just days after the disaster” (which Key is on record describing as a “national tragedy” – also “whatever it takes, the Government is behind you to get these guys home”).
    A bereaved man says, “the parent in me never gives up hope. Never, ever. I want my son home.”

    There is a lot more to the heart-breaking story, but I guess this is enough to give you the picture.
13. captain hook 13

    16 October 2012 at 6:21 pm

    by and large the cops are doing their best but they are not immune to post modernists who think only their own truths count.
    you know.
    the ones that think that because they are cops they can break the noise laws and cultivate arsewipes with noisy cars if they are informants.
    noooooooooo.
    • Rogue Trooper 13.1

      16 October 2012 at 8:58 pm

      🙂
14. headbanger 14

    17 October 2012 at 11:28 am

    I was interested to see yesterday that on the broken streets of the Christchurch CBD (where people are only just beginning to return) what look like CCTV cameras with 360 degree vision are being installed.

    Is Christchurch quietly becoming a CCTV city? Is this a good thing and should this work be done now when there is so much else to do?

    Although there can be good and valid reasons for CCTV I am deeply concerned by constant supervision being inflicted us on. Law in this area like that contained in the Search and Surveillance Bill assumes a competent and benevolent government – a laughable and naive concept.

    This could then become a slippery slope to losing human rights as has been seen in many other countries like the shocking changes in the name of anti-terrorism made in the UK. 
    • karol 14.1

      17 October 2012 at 11:35 am

      Yes, that is concerning, headbanger.  Thanks for pointing this out.  Shades of the UK surveillance society, supreme!

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